Hmm... If I had a good answer for this one I would not wear a hat all the time!
Pros-aide could work as a stronger alternative for the hairspray to hold the new hairline, though as you mentioned removal would be a lot of work. To help with removal you could try PPI Telesis Super Solv gel. I love Supr Solv for removing pros-aide, and the gel version is nice because you can let it sit for a while to help break the adhesive down. That said, I've not worked much with pros-aid in the hair, but as long as you don't go too heavy with the adhesive and are patient with the removal it should be fine. I know folks use pros-aide and bondo (thickened pros-aide to cover eyebrows, so there's that.
But if you got hairspray to work, that might be less effort overall.
I know for thinning hair you can paint the scalp or even use a flocking-like product to add more body, but moving the hairline without a small lace appliance or laying hair is a real challenge. You seem to have made great progress there though!
Hmm... If I had a good answer for this one I would not wear a hat all the time!
Pros-aide could work as a stronger alternative for the hairspray to hold the new hairline, though as you mentioned removal would be a lot of work. To help with removal you could try PPI Telesis Super Solv gel. I love Supr Solv for removing pros-aide, and the gel version is nice because you can let it sit for a while to help break the adhesive down. That said, I've not worked much with pros-aid in the hair, but as long as you don't go too heavy with the adhesive and are patient with the removal it should be fine. I know folks use pros-aide and bondo (thickened pros-aide to cover eyebrows, so there's that.
But if you got hairspray to work, that might be less effort overall.
I know for thinning hair you can paint the scalp or even use a flocking-like product to add more body, but moving the hairline without a small lace appliance or laying hair is a real challenge. You seem to have made great progress there though!
/Chris
Thank you. I will experiment with both the flocking and the pros-aide with the gel solvent. I think the comb forward requires the flocking regardless of method of attachment, pros-aide or hairspray. The skin beneath really shows through like a beacon.
I can be smart about the trials and use the extreme ends of my hair rather than the mid points like used in the actual comb forward. I have been having some success with wig pieces for sideburns and mustache so I think my next big test is receding hairline fillers without a full wig or cap. But seeing what might be possible with this comb forward, i must play a little before I move on.
@Darrell Green In addition to the advice shared by @Chris Ellerby you can also use tape, artfully hidden within your hair, to subtly pull your skin back and remove facial wrinkles, and I can't overstate the value of good lighting. That will go a long way toward eliminating the shadows caused by wrinkles. Another great trick is to use gravity to your advantage. If you're looking up at your camera, gravity will pull your skin more tautly and remove some wrinkles too. Good luck!
Good point Matt! Man this site is great. Hey, didn't they do that tape technique on the picture TOOTSIE (1982)? Or was it MRS. DOUBTFIRE (1993)? Both great comedies by the way. I love the pictures from the 1930s to the 1990s.
@Darrell Green In addition to the advice shared by @Chris Ellerby you can also use tape, artfully hidden within your hair, to subtly pull your skin back and remove facial wrinkles, and I can't overstate the value of good lighting. That will go a long way toward eliminating the shadows caused by wrinkles. Another great trick is to use gravity to your advantage. If you're looking up at your camera, gravity will pull your skin more tautly and remove some wrinkles too. Good luck!
Good point Matt! Man this site is great. Hey, didn't they do that tape technique on the picture TOOTSIE (1982)? Or was it MRS. DOUBTFIRE (1993)? Both great comedies by the way. I love the pictures from the 1930s to the 1990s.
Both for sure but the tape scene in Mrs Doubtfire is a true classic .... "Instant Eyelift!". That entire scene is not only hilarious but shows actual, useful effects processes. Thanks for reminding me these existed, I have been laughing and watching for about twenty minutes now.
One thing I picked up, in this viewing, (Mrs. Doubtfire 1993) is the tape on the face/forehead is attached to strings. This means no taping needed into the real hairline but instead controlled by strings all the way to the back of the head. Hiding them would be tricky without a head cover or wig but my character use-case usually includes a cover.
@m@"Matt Winston" @c@"Chris Ellerby" Chris, any examples of this in use? Anyone we can lean on for this process review? I can imagine coloring the strings the same color as the hair and laying hair over it but would love to see this in a teaching video. Do we already have this available?
I found another doubtfire makeup montage. Apologies but I don't know the copyright on the original but here is the link to this production behind the scenes special. Note, the use of the hair net style anchor. This is apparently where the tape ties to like a parachute and chords. Then the trick would be pulling from lower (side of head) locations to balance the forehead pull tape so the hair net (parachute) does not move but is pulled equally to stay at the back.
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Pros-aide could work as a stronger alternative for the hairspray to hold the new hairline, though as you mentioned removal would be a lot of work. To help with removal you could try PPI Telesis Super Solv gel. I love Supr Solv for removing pros-aide, and the gel version is nice because you can let it sit for a while to help break the adhesive down. That said, I've not worked much with pros-aid in the hair, but as long as you don't go too heavy with the adhesive and are patient with the removal it should be fine. I know folks use pros-aide and bondo (thickened pros-aide to cover eyebrows, so there's that.
But if you got hairspray to work, that might be less effort overall.
I know for thinning hair you can paint the scalp or even use a flocking-like product to add more body, but moving the hairline without a small lace appliance or laying hair is a real challenge. You seem to have made great progress there though!
/Chris
I can be smart about the trials and use the extreme ends of my hair rather than the mid points like used in the actual comb forward. I have been having some success with wig pieces for sideburns and mustache so I think my next big test is receding hairline fillers without a full wig or cap. But seeing what might be possible with this comb forward, i must play a little before I move on.
One thing I picked up, in this viewing, (Mrs. Doubtfire 1993) is the tape on the face/forehead is attached to strings. This means no taping needed into the real hairline but instead controlled by strings all the way to the back of the head. Hiding them would be tricky without a head cover or wig but my character use-case usually includes a cover.
@m@"Matt Winston" @c@"Chris Ellerby" Chris, any examples of this in use? Anyone we can lean on for this process review? I can imagine coloring the strings the same color as the hair and laying hair over it but would love to see this in a teaching video. Do we already have this available?