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Peter BondPeter Bond ✭✭✭
in How To Make a Monster Suit with Bill Bryan & Ted Haines
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone can reccommend a good place to get L200? Thought this would be a good category for other materials as well.

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  • Christopher VaughanChristopher Vaughan ✭✭✭✭✭
     Atlas Foam Products  •  12836 Arroyo Street  •  Sylmar, CA  91342  •

       Phone  (818) 837-3626    •    Fax  (818) 837-1114
  • Peter BondPeter Bond ✭✭✭

    Great. Thanks Chris. What size is best you think?

  • Wolf ReicherterWolf Reicherter ✭✭✭
    could we get the different classification numbers for the different Foam please? I seem to remember that Ted said that L200 is just what Atlas calls their stuff in store. Not the universal code for it.
    Any maybe an introduction into "Foam Lingo" might be cool too.

    This is what Chris put into the chat last saturday in terms of the upholstery stuff:

    12-TF or ANY Upholstery Foam
    Note: 12-TF foam is the Atlas Foam specification
    it has a Density of 1.2 LB/Cubic ft and a IFD of 33.

    (Whats LB and IFD please?)

    Ted also spoke of 2inch upholstery foam for general building of softer stuff and recomended matrasse foam for the neck of my costume. Can we please get the all the different specs for ALL the foams that Ted uses? Like....

    Polyurethan open cell - Density etc
    And as a substitute for L200 I used somehting I got here in the UK as
    Closed cell polyethylene sheet EFP30
    from these ppl here. http://www.efoam.co.uk/foamsheets.php

    Any tips what to buy from them as for the L200? I think what I got was too soft
  • Christopher VaughanChristopher Vaughan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi wolf no the EFP30 has the same density as the L200 (sorry we still use the imperial measurement system here, umm 32 kg/m is ~ 2 LB/Ft) 

    the density on the upholstery foam should be ~19-20 kg/m  and IFD stands for "Indentation Force Deflection" here is a fairly technical page on foam density if you are curious http://www.pfa.org/jifsg/jifsgs4.html
  • Wolf ReicherterWolf Reicherter ✭✭✭
    thanks mate, that helps  a lot


  • James WrightJames Wright ✭✭✭
    Thanks! That helps me a lot too. I've got access to EMO (a very dark foam, ahem...) (seriously) and ECK-1 which, is probably just what this company calls whatever, but its as close as I can get in large sheets (large being only 1m by 2m, as I said...)
  • Troy PicouTroy Picou ✭✭✭
    http://www.flanderscables.com for cables
  • Peter BondPeter Bond ✭✭✭

    Yes, I got cable adjusters here. The only place I could find em

  • Tom StewartTom Stewart ✭✭✭
    I don't know if any of the non-critique people are reading this and are from Canada but there are two places I found Rubber Cement - One is a place called Aboveground Art supplies and the other is called Tandy Leather. Tandy sells it at about $89 per 32oz can but Above Ground sells Best Test for $9 a 32oz can but shipping is $7 LOL 
  • James WrightJames Wright ✭✭✭
    89$
  • James WrightJames Wright ✭✭✭
    ??
  • Tom StewartTom Stewart ✭✭✭
    $ ?
  • Peter BondPeter Bond ✭✭✭
    Oh shit, Tandy leather is around the corner from me. Hooray.
  • Ted HainesTed Haines ✭
    RESEARCH, RESEARCH, REASEARCH!!!! You will find what you need. If you can't find what you need on the inter webs. Then call the stores directly. Or go to the stores and tell them what you're doing. Talking to people is the best way to get what you need.
  • RiccardoRiccardo ✭
    Hi all!

    I'm from Italy, just enjoyin' the course but now i'm preparing to do the shopping list.
    Bad news is i subjected the material list to some market but no one can understand that because they're not comfortable with US\UK unit of measure.

    Can anyone help me find the right equivalent foam in Europe?
  • Chris EllerbyChris Ellerby Admin
    Hi Riccardo,

    Is it the L200 foam you are having a hard time finding?  One alternative is to use EVA foam, which is often more readily available.  You can even get it at hardware stores in the form of ant-stress floor padding, sometimes as interlocking foam tiles.  It will usually have a textured side and a smooth side, which means keeping the textured side to the inside of your creations, or sanding off the texture.  If you are really lucky you can find EVA foam that is smooth on both sides.  

    /Chris

  • RiccardoRiccardo ✭
    Thank You Chris!
    I'm looking for some answer by the store here all around and i hope to find something good!
    Thank you for the hint!

    (can i take advantage here and asking you if there will be a "making a silicone mask tutorial" here?)
  • Chris EllerbyChris Ellerby Admin
    There will in fact be a silicone mask making course coming out this year.  We filmed it recently with leading experts in silicone mask making.  I don't have a release date that I can share with you yet though.

    /Chris
  • RiccardoRiccardo ✭
    Can't wait!!
    Thanks Chris!

  • Orac13Orac13 ✭
    This place has a good selection of upholstery foam sheets for those in Europe. They also do closed cell foam. :)
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